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The NATO Through Time podcast dives deep into NATO’s history, reflecting on how the past influences the present – and future – of the longest-lasting alliance in history. This episode features Lt Gen Hans-Werner Wiermann, who served as Director General of NATO’s International Military Staff (DGIMS) from 2019 until 2022.

How do the political and military sides of NATO work together?
What lessons are NATO militaries learning from Russia’s war against Ukraine?
How does an alliance of 32 countries combine their armed forces into one integrated military force – and how would this change in the event of war?

In this episode, Lt Gen Hans-Werner Wiermann explains how NATO’s command structure unites diverse militaries under one banner. He clarifies how NATO military leaders give advice to – and receive guidance from – NATO political leaders, ensuring democratic civilian oversight of Allied armed forces. 

He also speaks about his experience serving in the Bundeswehr (the German Armed Forces), before and after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the reunification of Germany. And he reflects on the future of the Alliance, including the development of new military capabilities based on lessons learned in Ukraine and the importance of critical undersea infrastructure.

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