Генерального секретаря НАТО Єнса Столтенберга після засідання Північноатлантичної ради
Північноатлантична рада щойно провела засідання для обговорення огидного замаху на життя Олексія Навального.
Німеччина ознайомила членів Альянсу з результатами дослідження своєї спеціалізованої лабораторії.
Є безсумнівні докази того, що пан Навальний був отруєний за допомогою нервово-паралітичної речовини військового класу з групи «Новічок».
Застосування такої зброї жахливе.
Усі союзники по Альянсу були сьогодні єдині в засудженні цього нападу.
Будь-яке застосування хімічної зброї демонструє цілковиту неповагу до людського життя і є неприйнятним порушенням міжнародних норм і правил.
Члени НАТО погодились з тим, що Росія зараз повинна відповісти на ряд серйозних запитань.
Російський уряд повинен повною мірою співпрацювати з Організацією із заборони хімічної зброї над неупередженим міжнародним розслідуванням.
Відповідальні за цей напад повинні бути притягнені до відповідальності і понести покарання.
Ми також закликаємо Росію надати ОЗХЗ повну інформацію про програму «Новічок».
Раз за разом ми бачимо напади на лідерів опозиції і критиків російського режиму і загрозу їхньому життю.
Дехто навіть вже убитий.
Отже, не просто напад на окрему людину, це напад на фундаментальні демократичні права.
І це серйозне порушення міжнародного права, яке вимагає міжнародної реакції.
Ми бажаємо пану Навальному повного і швидкого одужання. Ми подумки з ним і його родиною.
Союзники по Альянсу продовжать консультації і розглядатимуть наслідки цього інциденту.
На цьому я готовий відповісти на ваші запитання.
PIERS CAZALET [Deputy NATO Spokesperson]: And for the first question, we will go to Teri Schultz from Deutsche Welle.
TERI SCHULTZ: My question is: last time there was the allegation that Russia . . . that, that at least Russian nationals used Novichok, albeit on NATO territory, seven Russian diplomats were expelled from the NATO Mission. Yet it appears that if, in fact, Russia is again responsible, that is not a deterrent. So what more can you do to make the perpetrators understand that this will not be allowed? And why, as I’m being asked on my Twitter feed quite a lot, why does NATO believe that it would have a mandate to act in this case for an attack that was not on NATO territory? Thank you.
JENS STOLTENBERG: Because this is a violation of international law and international norms. It’s a use of a chemical weapon. It’s a use of a chemical nerve agent, which is violating the prohibition of any use of chemical weapons. And that matters for NATO. It’s undermining the rules and the norms we have to build peaceful and stable societies on. And it matters also because NATO is based on some fundamental values: democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty. And when we see that the lead opposition politician in Russia is attacked, is tried . . . there is an assassination attack against him, of course it matters for everyone that believes in the rule of law, democracy, individual liberty, as we do in NATO.
That’s the reason why we so strongly condemn the attack. Because it is an attack on an individual, but it is also an attack on fundamental democratic rights.
NATO’s voice matters. We represent close to one billion people. Fifty per cent of the world’s GDP. So it matters when NATO so clearly condemns the attack and the use of a chemical nerve agent.
We will continue to consult amongst Allies. We call on Russia to fully cooperate with an impartial international investigation, because it is extremely important that those who are responsible are held accountable when we see this kind of horrendous use of a prohibited illegal weapon.
PIERS CAZALET: And now we move to Ansgar Haase from DPA.
ANSGAR HAASE: In reaction of the poisoning of Russian ex-spy Sergei Skripal, NATO withdrew the accreditation of seven staff at the Russian Mission to NATO. Would this be a possible reaction if there is no will from the Russian side to do a transparent investigation in the case of Navalny? And can you please tell me how many Russians still have a NATO accreditation as members of the Russian Mission to NATO? Thank you.
JENS STOLTENBERG: There are parallels, because we see that a nerve agent, a chemical nerve agent, has been used again, coming from the same group of nerve agent as the Novichok that was used in Salisbury. At the same time, there are differences. This is a Russian citizen that was attacked in Russia. Now he’s in Germany. And I would like to commend Germany for the actions they have taken, the care they have provided for Alexei Navalny and the principled and very strong stand they have had on this issue.
Allies are now consulting. We will continue to consult. We are also, of course, consulting with other organisations. And we strongly believe that this is a blatant violation of international law, so it requires an international response. But I will not now speculate about exactly what kind of international response.
We still have Russian diplomats accredited to NATO. I am not able to give you the exact number now, but we will be able to convey that to you later on.
PIERS CAZALET: Okay, and for the next question, we will move to Lorne Cook from Associated Press.
LORNE COOK: Athens seems to be saying that this deconfliction mechanism is not starting. Do you believe that it will still go ahead? And in what ways do you think this might help calm things down between Greece and Turkey, or stop the kind of confrontations that we’re seeing? Thank you.
JENS STOLTENBERG: I will answer that question in a moment, but let me just add something to my previous answer on the size of the Russian delegation. Following a decision by the North Atlantic Council in 2019, after the Skripal case, the current maximum size of the Russian Mission to NATO is 20. And this was reduced from 30, as we decided back in 2018.
Then, on the situation in the eastern Mediterranean. So, following my discussions with both Greek and Turkish leaders, the two Allies have met already for technical talks here at NATO. The aim of these talks is to establish mechanisms for military deconfliction, to reduce the risk of incidents and accidents in the eastern Mediterranean. No agreement on the mechanism has been reached yet. These are technical talks, rather than negotiations on the underlying disputes between Greece and Turkey. And as such, they are meant to complement, not replace, the efforts led by Germany for political mediation towards de-escalation. Greece and Turkey are valued Allies, and NATO is an important platform for consultations on all issues that affect our shared security. So what we speak about is technical talks to try to establish mechanisms for deconfliction.
PIERS CAZALET: Okay, we will try for one more question from Thomas Gutschker from FAZ. Thomas, can you hear us?
THOMAS GUTSCHKER [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung]: Secretary General, I have a follow-up question to the previous one from Lorne. My understanding is that, for these technical talks, the two parties are not required to withdraw their military vessels from the disputed areas, it’s just about deconflicting them. Now, Greece is telling, Greek diplomats are saying that they still ask for the precondition of any talks that Turkish ships may be removed. Can you please clarify this, whether you’ve got a clear commitment from Greece that they will proceed even when Turkish ships are still in the disputed areas? That’s the first part of the question. And the second is: when and at which level will these talks be held at NATO? Thank you.
JENS STOLTENBERG: Well, these talks have already started, they have already met. And they meet at military level, these are technical talks. And I think that it is important to distinguish these technical military talks from the negotiations that Germany is trying to initiate and create a framework for. The German efforts – and I discussed this also with Chancellor Merkel last week in Berlin – they are aiming at establishing negotiations, addressing the underlying problem and to de-escalate. And that is about addressing the underlying problem of disagreement between two Allies on delimitation lines, the extension of exclusive economic zones in the eastern Mediterranean. That’s one issue. That’s addressed by Germany, which are now conducting mediation efforts to try to get those talks up and running. NATO is not directly involved in those efforts. I support the efforts, but these efforts are led by Germany. They address the underlying problem.
What NATO is doing, and what I am trying to do is not to address the underlying problem, but to deconflict and to try to develop and enhance mechanisms for deconfliction. As long as we have so many ships in the eastern Mediterranean, we believe that there is a need to have technical talks on how to develop mechanisms, enhance mechanisms, for deconfliction. And no agreement has been reached yet, but the talks have started.
PIERS CAZALET: Okay, that is all we have time for today. I’d like to thank everybody for joining us and I apologise once again for the technical issues we’ve had. I pass back to the Secretary General for final words.
JENS STOLTENBERG: Thank you so much. And thank you for joining me today. And stay safe all of you and I hope that in the future we can meet physically at a normal press conference. So, have a nice weekend. Thank you.